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'''Thaidakar''' is the leader of the Ghostbloods. His purpose, while unknown, was likely in opposition to that of Brightlord [[Meridas Amaram|Amaram]]. He is, in some way, linked with the Ghostbloods. King [[Gavilar Kholin|Gavilar]] mentioned him as a potential suspect for his assassination before [[Szeth]] (Gavilar's assassin) told him that the [[Parshendi]] were behind it.{{Ref|twok|c|Prologue}}
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'''Thaidakar''' is a leader of the Ghostbloods.<ref>[https://wob.coppermind.net/events/25-paris-signing/#e1756 Book signing, Paris, France, 10/22/16]</ref> His purpose, while ultimately unknown, was likely in opposition to that of [[Lighteyes|Brightlord]] [[Meridas Amaram|Amaram]]. King [[Gavilar Kholin|Gavilar]] mentioned him as a potential suspect for his assassination before [[Szeth]] (Gavilar's assassin) told him that the [[Parshendi]] were behind it.{{Ref|twok|c|Prologue}}
   
 
Thaidakar was also mentioned by Amaram when discussing the death of the [[Shardbearer]] (i.e., [[Helaran Davar|Helaran]]) who nearly killed him, at which time Amaram appeared to hint that Thaidakar was linked to the Ghostbloods.{{Ref|twok|c|51}}
  
Thaidakar was also mentioned by Amaram when discussing the death of the [[Shardbearer]] (i.e., [[Helaran Davar|Helaran]]) who nearly killed him, at which time Amaram appeared to hint that Thaidakar was linked to the Ghostbloods.{{Ref|twok|c|51}}
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Thaidakar is mentioned by [[Mraize]] with regard to the drawings [[Shallan Davar|Shallan]] made from the interior of Amaram's manor, reinforcing his connection to the Ghostbloods. The drawings were to be delivered to him.{{Ref|wor|c|54}}
  
Thaidakar is mentioned by [[Mraize]] with regard to the drawings [[Shallan Davar|Shallan]] made from the interior of Amaram's manor, reinforcing his connection to the Ghostbloods. The drawings were to be delivered to him.{{Ref|wor|c|54}}
   
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Thaidakar is now also [[w:c:Mistborn:Kelsier|Kelsier]] from the [[Brandon Sanderson#Bibliograpy Cosmere|Mistborn]] series of novels, revealed as the Lord of Scars, in Rhythm of War.<ref>[https://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/96012-wait-thaidakar-is/#comment-1191527 Thaidakar = Kelsier]</ref>
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Thaidakar is also Kelsier from the [[Brandon Sanderson#Bibliograpy Cosmere|Mistborn]] series of novels, revealed as the Lord of Scars (as [[Hoid|Wit]] calls him).{{Ref|row|c|115}}<ref>[https://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/96012-wait-thaidakar-is/#comment-1191527 Thaidakar = Kelsier]</ref>
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==Appearance==
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Kelsier is described as a middle-aged man with hawkish features and light blonde hair. His most prominent feature are the scars along his arms, a memento of time spent in the [[w:c:Mistborn:Pits of Hathsin|Pits of Hathsin]].
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In his head, [[Brandon Sanderson|Brandon]] has him in a large cloak with a Seon on top indicating his face.'''*'''<ref>[https://wob.coppermind.net/events/460-shardcast-interview/#e14641 Shardcast Interview, 1/23/21]</ref>
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==Characteristics==
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Kelsier is not actually on [[Roshar]]. The reason he wanted the Ghostbloods to capture the [[Herald]], [[Kalak|Kelek]], in the [[The Knife|knife]] with which [[Moash]] killed [[Jezrien]], was to preserve Kelek's knowledge so that his knowledge could help Kelsier get off [[w:c:Mistborn:Scadrial|Scadrial]].{{Ref|ob|c|121}}{{Ref|row|c|93}}<ref>[https://wob.coppermind.net/events/460-shardcast-interview/#e14641 Shardcast Interview, 1/23/21]</ref>
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Kelek tells Shallan that old Thaidakar has always wanted his secrets.{{Ref|row|c|93}}
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Mraize tells Shallan that Kelsier comes to Roshar in avatar only. That they are too far beneath his level to be worthy of more.{{Ref|row|c|115}}
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==Relationships==
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*Jasnah - She knows somewhat of him.{{Ref|row|c|64}}
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*Hoid - He has met him, several times, on other [[Cosmere#Worlds|worlds]],{{Ref|row|c|64}} and they can’t stand one another.{{Ref|row|c|64}}
   
 
==Notes==
  
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Just why a [[Cognitive Shadow]] (i.e., Kelsier) - from years before - has been revealed to be a new character in a new series was discussed by [[Brandon Sanderson|Brandon]] on the Shardcast. It was one of several plans to keep Mistborn relevant in the minds of readers. It was also setting up Kelsier for Era 3. RoW revealed the connection when [[Hoid|Wit]] relayed a message through Shallan for Mraize to tell Kelsier to deal with his own [[Cosmere#Worlds|world]], and not to make Wit come back to slap him around again.{{Cite}}<ref>[[Brandon Sanderson#Bibliography Cosmere|Mistborn: Secret History]]</ref><ref>[[Brandon Sanderson#Bibliography Cosmere|Arcanum Unbounded, pg. 230-235]]</ref>
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Just why a [[Cognitive Shadow]] - from years before - has been revealed to be a new character in a new series was discussed by [[Brandon Sanderson|Brandon]]. It was one of several plans to keep Mistborn relevant in the minds of readers. It was also setting up Kelsier for Era 3 of the Mistborn series. The content of Rhythm of War revealed the connection when Wit relayed a message through Shallan for Mraize to tell Kelsier to deal with his own [[Cosmere#Worlds|world]], and not to make Wit come back to slap him around again.<ref>[[Brandon Sanderson#Bibliography Cosmere|Mistborn: Secret History]]</ref><ref>[[Brandon Sanderson#Bibliography Cosmere|Arcanum Unbounded, pg. 230-235]]</ref>{{Ref|row|c|115}}
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'''*'''Brandon has said that this is not canon as he might come up with a better idea.<ref>[https://wob.coppermind.net/events/460-shardcast-interview/#e14641 Shardcast Interview, 1/23/21]</ref>
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In [[w:c:Mistborn:Mistborn: Secret History|Mistborn: Secret History]], it is revealed that Kelsier meets [[w:c:Mistborn:Preservation|Preservation]], whom he calls Fuzz.<ref>[https://coppermind.net/wiki/Summary:Mistborn:_Secret_History#Part_1_Chapter_1 Mistborn: Secret History #Part One, Chapter One]</ref>
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==Trivia==
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During Brandon's outlining of Kelsier's return, then after having backed off on it, [[w:c:Mistborn:TenSoon|TenSoon]] was actually going to be Thaidakar, wearing Kelsier's bones.<ref>[https://wob.coppermind.net/events/467-youtube-livestream-32/#e14763 YouTube Livestream 32, 6/3/21]</ref>
   
 
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Thaidakar
Biographical information
Ethnicity Scadrian
Nationality Scadrian
Gender Male
Status Alive
Social Information
Aliases Kelsier
Title(s) Lord of Scars[1]
Occupation Ghostblood
Appears in The Way of Kings (mentioned)
Words of Radiance (mentioned), Rhythm of War

Thaidakar is a leader of the Ghostbloods.[2] His purpose, while ultimately unknown, was likely in opposition to that of Brightlord Amaram. King Gavilar mentioned him as a potential suspect for his assassination before Szeth (Gavilar's assassin) told him that the Parshendi were behind it.[3]

Thaidakar was also mentioned by Amaram when discussing the death of the Shardbearer (i.e., Helaran) who nearly killed him, at which time Amaram appeared to hint that Thaidakar was linked to the Ghostbloods.[4]

Thaidakar is mentioned by Mraize with regard to the drawings Shallan made from the interior of Amaram's manor, reinforcing his connection to the Ghostbloods. The drawings were to be delivered to him.[5]

Thaidakar is also Kelsier from the Mistborn series of novels, revealed as the Lord of Scars (as Wit calls him).[6][7]

Appearance[]

Kelsier is described as a middle-aged man with hawkish features and light blonde hair. His most prominent feature are the scars along his arms, a memento of time spent in the Pits of Hathsin.

In his head, Brandon has him in a large cloak with a Seon on top indicating his face.*[8]

Characteristics[]

Kelsier is not actually on Roshar. The reason he wanted the Ghostbloods to capture the Herald, Kelek, in the knife with which Moash killed Jezrien, was to preserve Kelek's knowledge so that his knowledge could help Kelsier get off Scadrial.[9][10][11]

Kelek tells Shallan that old Thaidakar has always wanted his secrets.[10]

Mraize tells Shallan that Kelsier comes to Roshar in avatar only. That they are too far beneath his level to be worthy of more.[6]

Relationships[]

  • Jasnah - She knows somewhat of him.[12]
  • Hoid - He has met him, several times, on other worlds,[12] and they can’t stand one another.[12]

Notes[]

Just why a Cognitive Shadow - from years before - has been revealed to be a new character in a new series was discussed by Brandon. It was one of several plans to keep Mistborn relevant in the minds of readers. It was also setting up Kelsier for Era 3 of the Mistborn series. The content of Rhythm of War revealed the connection when Wit relayed a message through Shallan for Mraize to tell Kelsier to deal with his own world, and not to make Wit come back to slap him around again.[13][14][6]

*Brandon has said that this is not canon as he might come up with a better idea.[15]

In Mistborn: Secret History, it is revealed that Kelsier meets Preservation, whom he calls Fuzz.[16]

Trivia[]

During Brandon's outlining of Kelsier's return, then after having backed off on it, TenSoon was actually going to be Thaidakar, wearing Kelsier's bones.[17]

References[]

  1. ↑ Dragonsteel Mini-Con 2021, 11/22/21
  2. ↑ Book signing, Paris, France, 10/22/16
  3. ↑ The Way of Kings, Prologue - To Kill
  4. ↑ The Way of Kings, 51. Sas Nahn
  5. ↑ Words of Radiance, 54. Veil's Lesson
  6. ↑ 6.0 6.1 6.2 Rhythm of War, 115. Testament
  7. ↑ Thaidakar = Kelsier
  8. ↑ Shardcast Interview, 1/23/21
  9. ↑ Oathbringer, 121. Ideals
  10. ↑ 10.0 10.1 Rhythm of War, 93. Strong Enough
  11. ↑ Shardcast Interview, 1/23/21
  12. ↑ 12.0 12.1 12.2 Rhythm of War, 64. Personal Reminder
  13. ↑ Mistborn: Secret History
  14. ↑ Arcanum Unbounded, pg. 230-235
  15. ↑ Shardcast Interview, 1/23/21
  16. ↑ Mistborn: Secret History #Part One, Chapter One
  17. ↑ YouTube Livestream 32, 6/3/21
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